How BIG do Albino Tiger Oscars get?

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How BIG do Albino Tiger Oscars get?

Postby Digital_Duck » Mon Jan 08, 2007 12:12 pm

According to the pet store - mine is going to get up to 10 inches and a 30 gal tank is recommended ...

.... but that isn't what I am hearing here ....

my avatar is my little booger ....
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Postby scrappy » Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:10 pm

They get just as big as any of the variations of Oscars. They can get anywhere between 12"- 15"

You will definitely need to upgrade to at least a 55 gal / with no tankmates.
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Postby Digital_Duck » Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:17 pm

You know ... I am SO VERY sick of corporate deceit to sell more ...

I have never been a law suit kind of person ... but this blatant lack of facts has me seriously considering it ...

I would have NEVER got this if that was the case ... I am NOT going to buy a new house just to fit a larger tank in ....
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Postby WantanOscar » Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:24 pm

Digital_Duck wrote:You know ... I am SO VERY sick of corporate deceit to sell more ...

I have never been a law suit kind of person ... but this blatant lack of facts has me seriously considering it ...

I would have NEVER got this if that was the case ... I am NOT going to buy a new house just to fit a larger tank in ....


Yep, almost anywhere you go it's stated that an Oscar can live in a 30 gallon. And there just is no way I can see that working unless the Oscar is seriously stunted.
Prince is around 12 1/2 inches and he uses up the whole 55 gallon tank.

The good news..it's usually easier to find a cheaper 55 gallon tank than it is anything smaller lol
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Postby Kmuda » Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:33 pm

Just to concur. A 30 gallon tank is not sufficient for an Oscar. My advice, take the Oscar back and stock the tank with something more fitting for 30 gallons. If you really want an Oscar, 55 gallons would be the minimum, with 75 gallons preferred.
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Postby Digital_Duck » Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:33 pm

... I don't have the room for a larger tank in this house (and it'll be 2 or 3 years until we sell this one)... except for up in my office ...

I rarely get up there ... it's a waist of a fish!
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Postby WantanOscar » Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:37 pm

Then I agree, take him back and get something that will live happily in the 30 gallon.
When you move in few years, then get your larger tank and try again with an Oscar.
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Postby Kmuda » Mon Jan 08, 2007 1:56 pm

FYI: Per the OPs original post, the tank is also in a cycle with very high ammonia levels (8ppm).
http://www.oscarfish.com/viewtopic.php?t=63482
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Postby Digital_Duck » Mon Jan 08, 2007 2:42 pm

Yeah - it is all new ... never been used!

I got to get back to the tank it's about 3/4 empty right now ...
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Postby Doc Bottom » Mon Jan 08, 2007 3:03 pm

Sorry you got messed over by pet-store misinformation, Digital Duck.

I am convinced that the industry knows that ill-informed newcomers to fishkeeping will spend more in a year of killing their fish and having terrible disheartening problems than well-informed ones will spend in five years of enjoying their fish.

I was told the same thing, when I got my first O. Before oscarfish.com existed. 30 gallons minimum, so I got a 55 gallon thinking I was giving my fish luxury accomodations. And then replaced it with a 75 'cause it was pretty cramped in there when my oscar got big.
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Postby Digital_Duck » Mon Jan 08, 2007 3:21 pm

I wish my EVIL BONE was just a bit more evil ...
... but ... it's not!

so PETA isn't going to hear about this one ... this time!

.... I'm just not that cruel
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Re: How BIG do Albino Tiger Oscars get?

Postby alexisbrowne » Mon Jan 08, 2007 5:24 pm

Digital_Duck wrote:According to the pet store - mine is going to get up to 10 inches and a 30 gal tank is recommended ...

.... but that isn't what I am hearing here ....

my avatar is my little booger ....
The 30 gallon tank is so that the Oscar will live just long enough for you to blame yourself for it dying and not the store. Then you go and buy another one...and it dies.
Then you go and buy something else (more expensive usually) because "Oscars are delicate" OR "I'm no good with Oscars".
I am going to make a GROSS GENRALIZATION HERE:

MOST Petstores STINK.
TANKS: List has become ridiculous.
PLECS&CATFISH: Worse than ever with more OTW.
BIG FISH: Oscar, JD, BRP's, Discus.
I threw away my couch to make room for a 240, and I bought 100lbs. of frozen fish food.
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Postby sprout » Mon Jan 08, 2007 6:49 pm

I agree most pet stores are very misleading. Also that 30g tank they sold you is probably more like 29g's. I recently overheard a pet store employee tell a person that a fish will only grow as big as its environment allows. We all know that's false, and I spoke up and told the customer the truth... You can not house 5 pacu's in a 40g hex! For the OP, return the oscar, come back we'll explain how to properly cycle your tank and help you decide some proper fish to stock it with.
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Postby OscarbitteninOhio » Mon Jan 08, 2007 6:51 pm

Sad to say, that corporate stores are not alone in misleading the customer when giving out fish info. I frequent a privately owned fish store (haunt, stalk, loiter, basically live there all would be more accurate) has great fish, but not always the best info or advice. One gal still swears that the bacteria that consume ammonia and nitrites live in the water and that doing too large of a water change can kill your fish.

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Postby tiny » Mon Jan 08, 2007 7:45 pm

that sounds like a petsmart thing petsmart lables their oscars as 10 inches and only needing 30 gallons

check out my no clowns in a cube link on my sig, it is a group devoted ot putting a stop to misinformation frpm pet stores about fish , we all send letters and are doing our best to change things, we are starting with petsmart because they lable their fish with adult size and tank size needed where most other stores do not ,
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Postby Doc Bottom » Mon Jan 08, 2007 8:31 pm

Thanks for that link, tiny.

Sounds like a much better organization to hook up with than PETA, who just want to ban pet-keeping entirely.
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Postby tiny » Mon Jan 08, 2007 8:33 pm

yeah im not a fan of peta either, they file false complaints agains stores all the time just to try to get them shut down.

im all for keeping pets, as long as you keep them properly :wink:
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Postby Kmuda » Mon Jan 08, 2007 8:41 pm

PETA just makes what we try to do that much more difficult. Some of our advice just gets passed off as fanaticism resulting from prior publishing of PETA activities and philosophies.

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Postby Brolly445 » Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:30 pm

PETA: People eating tasty animals. :hello1:
I intend to live forever... so far so good.

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Postby Digital_Duck » Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:36 pm

tiny wrote:that sounds like a petsmart thing petsmart lables their oscars as 10 inches and only needing 30 gallons

check out my no clowns in a cube link on my sig, it is a group devoted ot putting a stop to misinformation frpm pet stores about fish , we all send letters and are doing our best to change things, we are starting with petsmart because they lable their fish with adult size and tank size needed where most other stores do not ,

LOL - observant!

See ... for me - if it isn't an Oscar in a tank ... it's a bass in a pan with lemon butter ... the others are just to accompany my booger through life.
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