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Do I really need a heater?

Postby fish_keeper_2002 » Thu Aug 01, 2002 1:12 pm

I have never ever had a heater and I keep tons of succesfuul fish!!! I live in Toronto and it gets colder than texas so i wouldn't worry. I find to if your tank is lit for 8 hrs a day it usally stays nice and warm. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="/smile.gif" />
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Postby AmyJo » Thu Aug 01, 2002 1:25 pm

The problem is temp fluctuations. During the winter, we keep the temp a lot cooler at night. Spring and fall temps will change a lot depending of if we're using the AC or opening the windows.

If the temp in your house never varies more than 6 degrees 24-7-365 then you don't need a heater.
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Postby bobrick » Thu Aug 01, 2002 3:20 pm

I never use a heater. Never have. My oscars are fine without one.
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Postby T » Thu Aug 01, 2002 4:34 pm

Are you all on drugs?Of course you need a heater, the temperature fluctuates far too much to not have one.Its not as if they cost much or are particularly large.Come on people they are tropical fish and should be kept at the correct temerature.
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Postby vx720 » Thu Aug 01, 2002 4:43 pm

I agree with "t".
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Postby bountyhunter » Thu Aug 01, 2002 4:46 pm

Sorry. I don't use 'em either. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="/eek.gif" />
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Postby OsCaR lUvR » Thu Aug 01, 2002 5:16 pm

What is a safe temp range for oscars?
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Postby vx720 » Thu Aug 01, 2002 5:22 pm

78-90 or there abouts.
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Postby OsCaR lUvR » Thu Aug 01, 2002 5:24 pm

some websites say as low as 74degrees. Strange, I guess everyone's gonna have a different answer.
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Postby bountyhunter » Thu Aug 01, 2002 5:42 pm

I think the ideal temp for an O is 78-82. I've had my tanks as low as 72 and as high as 90 for short periods. The high temps are worse for the fish than the low ones. Years ago my mother was cleaning a tank and put her pleco into a bowl of tap water. The fish died almost as soon as it hit the water. She told me that the water felt warm. It was skin temp. 98.6 So i'd say 90 is pushing it. Later.
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Postby Ryan Achenbach » Thu Aug 01, 2002 6:26 pm

Drop the 78 to 68 and FOBB is actually right <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="/eek.gif" /> ....well almost. These are the temperature extremes that South American water can reach depending on the season. This is why the middle 78-82 has been developed as the "optimal" temperature.
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This is why i tend not to use a heater all the time (although i always have one in for if the situation calls). I allow the tank to go through seasons.....in the warmer summer my tank reaches 85 during the day and about 82 at night. In the winter its about 79 but never below about 75-76. This somewhat mimics a natural environment....even though these fish have no idea what their natural environment actually is.
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Postby OscarBeast » Thu Aug 01, 2002 8:26 pm

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by fullofbullboy:
<strong>78-90 or there abouts.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">90 is pushing it.

I wouldn't go past 84.
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Postby Pisces » Thu Aug 01, 2002 8:39 pm

Fish bred in captivity are acclimated ideally to temps. b/w 78-82. I think it was the Bountyhunter who pointed this out as well. The fish are extremely hardy and can withstand varying degrees either way...however the "ideal" is maintained b/w 78-82.
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Postby Ryan Achenbach » Thu Aug 01, 2002 9:26 pm

Their bred in captivity but by the time they have reached your home they have seen all sorts of things.....not to mention their fishy lives have hardly existed....so their bodies really aren't "acclimated" to a temperature that can't be deviated from. This doesn't mean that i promote fish being kept in all kinds of bizarre temperatures...just stating an opinion on temperatures.
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Postby Moe » Thu Aug 01, 2002 9:27 pm

I keep my tank at 78. Although I've never had to use my heater, I keep it in the tank just incase. I've never had to use my heater, but I don't want to need it and not have it.

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Postby Alpinestars936 » Thu Aug 01, 2002 9:47 pm

76-84 seems good to me.
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Postby Dotyereye » Thu Aug 01, 2002 10:10 pm

I run my tanks at 80 and have had no problems. I have to use heaters though.
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Postby Pisces » Thu Aug 01, 2002 10:12 pm

I really do not think that the pertinant question was directed as to what temp. Oscars could withstand. Rather it was an inquisition as to what they prefer. Yes, they can tolerate variations to the ideal. But for optimum health the prescribed temp. is b/w 78 and 82. I am compelled to apologize for the redundancy regarding this concern. Peace.
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Postby OsCaR lUvR » Fri Aug 02, 2002 12:39 am

Especially right now in the middle of summer. I live in texas and it gets to about 100 every day and my house stays about 76-78 degrees. What about winter? My house usually stays in the mid 70s then two. Anyone just not use a heater. It is rather unatractive in the tank. Thanks for any suggestions.
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Postby Corwin » Fri Aug 02, 2002 12:50 am

It would seem that any fluctuation in temperature, however slight, may be stressful to the fish. That is why I use a heater...to achieve uniformity.
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Postby OsCaR lUvR » Sat Aug 03, 2002 12:14 am

Thanks for all your opinions. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="/smile.gif" />
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